I have more than 700 hours of Christian catechism under my belt, and atleast as many more studying the issue on my own, and all the nifty things they weren't willing to mention in official catechism.
And the commandment about slaying those who try to lure you to other gods is very clearly an open-ended commandment for Jews. It's in Deuteronomy, not a reference to a historical commandment that no longer applies.
"Neither Christianity nor Judaism have any open ended commands for believers to commit violence against unbelievers, or condoning such acts"
Judaism does have such a command. I quoted it to you. Now you are just denying the evidence of your own eyes.
"Nor are there any Jews or Christians committing such acts on a regular basis, "
That's because the Romans defeated the political power of Judaism, and the French Revolution (and its aftermatch) defeated the political power of Christianity. The Judaic and Christian religious establishments no longer have the *power* to commit such acts.
Before such time, heretics and unbelievers and blasphemers and the like were very regularly treated with extreme violence to the point of murder. From the murder of the Greek female mathematician Hypatia (who got her skin scoured off her flesh by a nice mob of Christians) to the slaughters of pagans during the time of the Byzantium, to the Spanish inquisition.
"If you knew anything about these three religions, you would not be saying such woefully ignorant things."
I know lots about all three of the religions, and their history, and their dogmas, both written and oral, and it's me who who has pesky facts on my side - and you have none on yours.
You are now just trying to use insults in the place of facts. I didn't insult you. You insult me.
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Re: Moral Absolutes vs Moral Relativism
Date: 2011-03-16 09:04 am (UTC)And the commandment about slaying those who try to lure you to other gods is very clearly an open-ended commandment for Jews. It's in Deuteronomy, not a reference to a historical commandment that no longer applies.
"Neither Christianity nor Judaism have any open ended commands for believers to commit violence against unbelievers, or condoning such acts"
Judaism does have such a command. I quoted it to you. Now you are just denying the evidence of your own eyes.
"Nor are there any Jews or Christians committing such acts on a regular basis, "
That's because the Romans defeated the political power of Judaism, and the French Revolution (and its aftermatch) defeated the political power of Christianity. The Judaic and Christian religious establishments no longer have the *power* to commit such acts.
Before such time, heretics and unbelievers and blasphemers and the like were very regularly treated with extreme violence to the point of murder. From the murder of the Greek female mathematician Hypatia (who got her skin scoured off her flesh by a nice mob of Christians) to the slaughters of pagans during the time of the Byzantium, to the Spanish inquisition.
"If you knew anything about these three religions, you would not be saying such woefully ignorant things."
I know lots about all three of the religions, and their history, and their dogmas, both written and oral, and it's me who who has pesky facts on my side - and you have none on yours.
You are now just trying to use insults in the place of facts. I didn't insult you. You insult me.