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MISHNA:  Dot-coms:  With excessive    Dot-coms:  the  commentary  on a
price to earnings ratios.  NASDAQ:    laptop writes excessive price to
That   is  to  say                                    earnings.    But
any stock  market.   MISHNA: These are the dot-coms   surely not every
All the more so on   that  have  no  share  in  the   stock  with high
NYSE.   Publically   NASDAQ:  Aleph-bay,  Nile.com,   P/E  ratio  is a
traded:  but  they   and Blackhat.com. R' Akeyboard   dot-com.  Rather
may    be   traded   says they  are not  publically   it means because
privately.     Ten   traded.  R' ElazerPrinter says   of the high  P/E
trillion:    stock   they should not have an IPO. :   ratio.  Rabbienu
stock certificates   Is    Aleph-bay   a   dot-com?   ROM says this is
Pits   of  organic   Certainly it is not a dot-org?   to include other
dye:  on a  CD-RW.   Rather   it   is   a   dot-com   [non-Internet]
Scalded       with   although  it is not  called  a   tech stocks.
lasers: re-written   dot-com. R' OS-i says the text
100,000 times.       is deficient, read it these are the dot-coms that
                     have  no  share  in  the  NASDAQ:  Aleph-bay.com,
Nile.com, and  Blackhat.com.    Similarly, it is taught  in  a braisa,
these  are  the   dot-coms  that  have  no   share  in   the   NASDAQ:
Aleph-bay.com, Nile.com, and Blackhat.com. Abyte says scripture refers
to them as  ploni  or  ploni.com,  with the exception of Nile which is
always called Nile.com,  as it is written, "and Nile.com split and the
stockholders came  through dry-shod." : Should not have an IPO : It is
prohibited to give them an IPO.   But if they have an  IPO anyway they
are not punished by Beis Din.   But are they not punished?   For it is
taught in a braisa: What is their punishment?  Ten trillion are dumped
into pits of organic dye and scalded with lasers.  Here  we  speak  of
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Even one can flame.: Here Abyte    Group: that is: USENET, listservs,
is going according to his own      and  message  boards.   As  it  is
opinion  further                                      written   "this  
on (26:) that an  : Ad hominems and flames by three,  USENET  group."  
am  ha'aretz may  trolls  by one.   R' Yahooda  says  Ad    hominems:    
only      pasken  flames by one:   What is the case?  both  true  and  
regarding   that  If  this  is a  un-moderated group  false.  Trolls:
which    he   is  even   one  can  post  ad hominems  so       called      
ingnorant    of.  and  flames.   And  if  this  is a  because    they    
And  over  there  moderated group,  all of these are  interfere  with  
we  explain that  prohibited.  And furthermore, what  traffic  across  
"pasken"    must  is  the   difference   between  ad  network bridges.
mean    "flame."  hominems  and  flames and  between  The   text   is    
But    it     is  trolls?  Abyte says: [the text] is  lacking:    the    
difficult  to me  lacking  and   this  is  what   he  text      was
why  the  Gemara  teaches:  In a moderated group, ad  corrupted  when  
writes   "flame"  hominems  can  be  permitted  by a  the      server      
here explicitly,  moderation committee of three.  In  crashed because
when  it  writes  an unmoderated group flames are by  it was not  Y5K  
"pasken"   later  three and  ad hominems  and trolls  compliant.  The    
on.   So we must  are by one.  But is this the case?  first Tana: who
say that here it  Like it says  in an RFD:  Even one  holds  that  ad  
is talking about  can flame.   And who is the author  hominems    and    
any       flame,  of the RFD?  R' Yahooda.   But the  flames  are  by  
whereas there it  first  Tana  teaches  according to  3.    Everyone:
is talking about  that  which  we  learned:  flaming  that is to say,
specifically   a  must   be   joined   by  everyone.  at least three.
flame    phrased  :Death  threats  by  twenty-three:  
to sound  like a
psak.   But this needs investigation.  Everyone:  The commentary on a
laptop writes that "everyone" means at least three.   But it seems to
me that  everyone refers to  l'chatchilah,   but only three b'dievad.
But if it was less than three, then he didn't fulfill his obligation.
And there are those that say  that in any case this is referring to a
flame-fest,  but a regular flame  can be done by an  individual  even
according to the first Tana.

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FOR A  PARTICULAR HOST: This is a   A multicast packet:  this refers to
difficulty!   For  how can we say   a TCP/IP  packet.  Are  meant for a
that a packet is lost if it has a   particular host: that the packet is
destination address?                                 addressed   to  in
And if  you would  Come   and   hear:  a  multicast  the packet header.
say that the name  packet is not returned.  This is  In this  case, the
server  is  down,  fine  according  to the  one who  sender  knew   the
but  this  is  an  says  multicast  packets are not  destination.    R'
IP address, not a  meant for a particular host, but  Akeyboard     says
machine     name.  what about the one who says that  multicast  packets
Rather,  we   are  multicast  packets are meant for  are  hefker:   and
forced to say the  a particular  host?   And who is  therefore they can
Gemara is talking  this?   R' Akeyboard.   Like  we  not   be  intended
about the case of  learn in the  Mishna:  R' Elaser  for   a   specific
a diskless client  Printer  says multicast  packets  host,  since  that
which  broadcasts  are  not  meant  for a  specific  host would be able
to  find  a  boot  host,     R'    Akeyboard   says  to   claim   them.  
server; therefore  multicast   are   meant   for  a  There      is   no
it   intends  the  specific   host.    But  does  R  disagreement:   of
packet    for   a  Akeyboard really  say this?   We  R' Akeyboard  with
specific machine,  learn in a  Braisa: R' Akeyboard  himself.   A local
but  it  does not  says   multicast   packets   are  subnet:  So it  is
know    its    IP  hefker.    Says  R'  Yahoo-shua:  intended   for   a
address  for  the  really there is no disagreement,  specific host.   A
header.   HEFKER:  the first case refers to packets  gateway:  since it
Why  doesn't  the  within a local subnet, the later  has a high TTL, we
it bring the case  case  refers  to  packets  going  assume it is meant
of the token ring  through  a  gateway.    R'  UUCP  to be seen by many
(Kiddushin  12a)?  came up from  Silicon Valley and  hosts.     Silicon
For  it  says:  a  he taught:  a  TCP/IP  packet is  Valley:  from  the
packet can not be                                    word sh'lach,  the
hefker.  Now this is fine  according to the one who  valley of sending.
says that that case is speaking about a UUCP packet,
but what  about the  one who  says it  is speaking  about all  packets?  
Therefore it seems to me that R' Akeyboard does  not consider multicast
packets to be real packets.   But I have heard  it that there are those
say that  this refers not  to the packet mamash, but  to a TCP  wrapper
                             protocol.

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