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Обнюхиваю digital cameras. Кто посоветует, без чего жить нельзя, и чего остерегаться?

Date: 2004-01-26 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sholem.livejournal.com
А что именно вы ищите? Для каких целей?

Date: 2004-01-26 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mratner.livejournal.com
Какой камерой Вы пользуетесь сейчас?
Сколько денег хотите потратить?
Какого рода фотографией будете заниматься?

Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-26 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ymarkov.livejournal.com
Семейные фотографии, как в помещениях, так и на улице. Иногда на увеличение, так что надо 3 мегапикселя (натуральных), мыслю я. Вспышку с подьемом, чтоб меньше красноглазия. И чтоб не надо было после каждого кадра подтверждать, надо ли его оставить. И чтоб не больше $400.

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-27 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sholem.livejournal.com
Я бы рекомендовал Nikon Coolpix 2100, 2200, 3100, 3200

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-27 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mratner.livejournal.com
Я бы на Вашем месте поигрался с Nikon 3100 (3200?), Canon A80, Canon G3 и Minolta Z1.

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-27 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mratner.livejournal.com
Also perhaps the "Pentax Optio 555" is worth a look -- 5 MP and 5 times optical zoom at about $400 street.

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-27 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ymarkov.livejournal.com
Ideally, the thing will be shaped more like a regular camera and have a pop-up flash. All the models recommended so far (except Z1) are cigarette-pack types with flash close to the lens. And Canon reportedly uses a proprietary non-lossy format. That's why I was looking at Fuji Finepix S5000 (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5000/page1.asp).

Rather than suggest specific models, can anyone suggest features - must-have and must-avoid? Thanks!

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-27 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mratner.livejournal.com
I didn't mention the Fuji because some people say it is S-L-O-W, which disqualifies it from family use, as far as I can see. Shutter reaction speed and (only slightly less important) time between shots are critical parameters for a family camera. Take a kid to the store, have him run around and try taking a few pictures with a camera you are considering.

From what I've seen, the pop-up flash makes very little difference concerning red-eye. Only bouncing the flash (or firing it remotely) will guarantee absence of red-eye. If bouncing is not possible (outside, very high ceilings, room not white), then an external flash with a softbox or something like an Omnibounce will minimize red-eye, but never completely eliminate it. If external flash is something you'd consider using, then I think the Canon G3 is a clear choice -- it is an awesome camera (better than G5, unless you absolutely need 5mp).

Good luck.

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-27 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mratner.livejournal.com
And Canon reportedly uses a proprietary non-lossy format.

Huh?! Are you talking about RAW, which is available in addition to regular JPG? That's not a bug, that's a feature! :)

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-27 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sholem.livejournal.com
Пальчиковые батарейки вместо встроенного акумулятора.
Эргономика - крайне важно, но это можно проверить только подержав аппарат в руках.
Наличие видеосъемки со звуком (если надо)
Количество мегапикселей - для хорошей печати >4
Хороший зум

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-27 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ymarkov.livejournal.com
Is the Z1 slow?

Good advice about a kid in a store :-) Can RAW be edited in popular photo software like MS Photo Editor?

As for the flash, I never get red eye with an external on my 35mm Nikon. And I once used an Olympus with a pop-up flash for a few days, and no red eye either.

Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-28 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mratner.livejournal.com
Is the Z1 slow?

I haven't played with the Z1, but I am partial to Minoltas :) and people do say it is reasonably quick.
If you like the idea of huge zooms and can spend a bit more, I think the Panasonic FZ10 with a stabilized Leica 12x zoom lens (35-420mm equivalent, 2.8 constant throughout the entire zoom range) is a tremendous camera.

Can RAW be edited in popular photo software like MS Photo Editor?

No, usually RAW needs to be converted to JPG before you can do anything with it.

As for the flash, I never get red eye with an external on my 35mm Nikon. And I once used an Olympus with a pop-up flash for a few days, and no red eye either.

What can I say, my experience is different.

Good luck.






Re: Все вам так и расскажи :-)

Date: 2004-01-28 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mratner.livejournal.com
Can RAW be edited in popular photo software like MS Photo Editor?

No, usually RAW needs to be converted to JPG before you can do anything with it.


Yikes, sorry, gave you wrong info. Usually every manufacturer's RAW implementation is proprietary, so you'd need to process it with their software BEFORE converting to JPG (or another format). For some RAW formats (don't know about Canon) Photoshop plug-ins are available.
The advantage of shooting in RAW is that you have complete control over things like sharpening, white balance, saturation, etc., which if you shoot in JPG are done in camera.

Date: 2004-01-30 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonbaker.livejournal.com
Cheese, don't you ever post in a guman language?

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